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dnb.in.ua DRUM'N'BASS SESSION 16 @ CINEMA Club, (12/10/2007)
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Interview with Paradox

by backpacker
January 19, 2007
Kyiv, Ukraine

Part 2:

You want to bring that old flavour back and what do you think: what artists push drum&bass forward? I mean not returning back that vibe but pushing sound forward.

People that are pushing it forward, Id say… Im not this big fan of all Klutes stuff, but I respect his music and the way he adapts and changes. I mean hes not still the same Klute when I was on a label with him (we were on the same label in the past).

But when you hear it you can definitely say its Klute.

Yes. I do like what he does. I know him and I know how he thinks as well. I know hes not thinking ”Oh, Ill have to change my music to survive in this world”, I know hes not doing that. And I know Dom or Calibre, I know he doesnt sit in the studio to make music for money because thats just not him. Hes turning down offers to make money to make music. So theres a crux of artists. And of course its gonna sound a bit biased, but Seba is just the most talented musician out there and hes unbelievable. The guys musical mind is just impressive.

You know, theres so much shit out there that its really hard to pin-point groups that do it. Because so many people have left the scene and now are doing shit music. So many people were making good music and now I see a tracklist on the Internet, Im new to their track and I go like ”Thats not them, is it?!” So everyone has fallen and joined the pack, they dont wanna be left on the shelf and their career just crumbles. So instead of being an outsider on the side they go ”Ill join everyone else, f**k it”.

Or, in theory, because music is like that, they actually like it now. And its funny because to be honest theres an artist like that, whom I really know. And thats Blame. And I really dont like what hes doing, but I know what hes doing he likes. So I cant really have a go, because as a musician he has changed – OK. Ill be honest, I think its rubbish what hes doing, but I cant really have a go in too much, because he really does like that and every man has his own right to choose his own reality in a sense. So I have just to accept it. But I listen to old Blames records and Im just blown away…

Its like the other person.

Yes, its like a different alias almost. Yeah, Blame is a good example of a person like that. There are many good other people that I didnt mention, I really just struggle to find who is doing that. Its the crux of Seba, Marcus, Calibre, Klute… They are all old heads. I really cant think of many new artists making kind of really good impression. Oh, but there are two new guys called Raf & Ill Logic that appeal to me. But its really some of the old ones that I respect and I can count them on one hand.

And thats a bit sad…

It is really. Because, to be honest, I really looked up to music J Majik was doing, but J Majik now is like J Majik has died. I dont know J Majik well as a person so I dont know if he enjoys what he does…

Maccs live performances – like playing drums live – does that appeal to you?

Yeah, thats cool. I mean, he wasnt performing abroad so I sent him to Croatia and he broke his European debut. Weve done one in Latvia and in two weeks time me and Macc are in Lithuania. So thats good, he hasnt been abroad and I just threw him into the deep pan and just said ”Go and do it” and he was ”Oh, Ill have to get a plane?” – ”Of course youve got to get a plane!”

Is he afraid of flying like Big Bud?

No, not afraid of flying, but the organisation in a different country – anything may go wrong really. But, you know, hes good at it. Weve done a few other things now in Holland. And its good to have another live artist on the label.

But you perform separately. Havent you thought of playing together? For example, Macc does drums and you take care of the rest?

Yeah, in Lithuania we might do something together.

Havent you done DJing at all?


So what you think of this? Do you consider it to be an artform or something?

Yes, it is in a sense. Ive had Technics 1200 for 10 years but I never used them. I often see Seba DJing. Seba mixes music.

Not beats.

Oh, beatmatching is simple, but he mixes music. Like when we will be out and he will hear his track and the next one coming in he will go ”Why she had done that?” And everyones going crazy because she mixes it perfectly in time; maybe the first minute of the track that she brought in was clashing with the one that was playing. And Seba goes like ”Id never do that”. And thats the musician speaking. When he DJs because I know that and noone else does I hear it differently. Everyone else just hears – oh, its in time, he doesnt f**k up. But when you hear the music… Ive seen the different side to DJing. And I dont like the non-interaction of doing it.

But Ive made a pact that I will start doing it only when something happens and my girlfriend gets pregnant. Because shes like ”Oh, when I get pregnant you are f**kin working two arses now, because my bum is sitting still and you have to work twice as hard and that means you doing more gigs, getting on the road to bring that f**kin money home”. Then I can do more shows in England, dont have to go far and be home in time. So I agreed.

Oh, we can expect some DJing from you!

Only if that accident occurs. smile.gif Put it this way: if someone says to me ”When will you start DJing?”, Ill say ”Im not planning on having a baby” smile.gif.

Who do you respect as DJs?

Well, technique really, because I dont DJ and dont listen to a lot of DJs. I like DJ Flight for what she plays: something different, she can slap on something by me, Seba or Macc – I thing for her to acknowledge that – and then play something simply weird. I think she is more across the spectrum. So I like Flight and Ill go to see her DJing somewhere.

Artificial Intelligence: when they DJ I like it because theyre quite tight, theyre like the old Randall. I also enjoy A-Sides DJing, he works hard, always DJing across the world. And again actually A-Sides is another guy that makes good music, so he is also the one I respect. Again hes another ”old person” like me. So yes, A-Sides, DJ Flight… Fab & Groove – I just lost them…

Both of them?

Well, Grooverider more. I still enjoy Fabio but he still plays records that Im like ”What the f**k are you doing?” You know, he has just changed – I dont like Fabio as much as I used to like.

What music do you listen to in your spare time?

Strictly funk music and drum&bass from that period that I said earlier. Some music like the band called Keane in England: its not pop-music; its mainly a guy on the piano and the guy singing. They kind of bend over to the side where its not mainstream music. They are on Island Records and Island Records sees them as pop-stars and then markets them as pop-star but the music doesnt fit that format, if you know what I mean. I hear them on the radio and I acknowledge them.

I like those jazz and funk and all the people that are into it. 4 Hero of course. Again its the old thing like detroit house, detroit techno. Ambient sounds that have no breaks and pure 20 minutes of textures - I like listening to that. And feeding of that, I get ideas for music. Indian music, because Im Indian myself.

What about Amits stuff?

Oh yeah, of course, Amit! Yeah, thats another artist. Hes got his own sound. Amit and Outrage are the two I quite like.

What about your girlfriend: is she into drum&bass?

Yeah, she loves it. Its really strange but shes more into things like Squarepusher which is weird for a girl. Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, Boards of Canada. And for her to be dating this guy… Im not like that. You know, she listens to my stuff and shes like ”Why dont you do more things like Squarepusher, darling?” and Im like ”God, I dont want to have this kind of conversation with my future wife at an early stage. Cup of tea, darling. Oh, I hear a leak” smile.gif – you know what I mean – ”Ill go fix that leak” and Im out of the room smile.gif.

But I think thats kind of cool. The other day she said ”I like that track called ”Love her” by you and Nucleus” I mean she never mentioned anything about it. She was like ”Saw my friend the other day and she thinks its really dark but I dont think it is. It isnt dark, its a bit mistical”. Shes really young as well, so its kind of good because either shed go ahead screwed on in a way. And shes like ”Oh, I f**kin hate Pendulum! It makes me puke” and Im like ”Thats my girl!” I didnt even pay her to do that, you know what I mean smile.gif.

Apart from music what are your general aspirations in life? Hobbies, what do you do outside music?

I play table tennis and Im really good at it.


Dont ever call it that! Its called table tennis. Ping-pong is just the wrong word, man. There are two words that I dont like and they are ”demo” and ”ping-pong”. When I was 17 I played for England in under-17 category in like regional finals table tennis. But then I went to Japan where I was beaten by the 10-year old and it was a bit embarassing. That stopped me playing for a while. To get beaten by the 10-year old girl talking with her parents while playing. I was like ”Theres something wrong here with this country. She must be on steroids or something. Shes 10, but shes on ping-pong steroids. Some 10-year old can beat me?! Im f**kin Paradox!” So yeah, table tennis, uhm…

uk: Football, Liverpool…

Oh yeah, Liverpool! Ive got Liverpool shirt at home. I dont know if you noticed it, but if you support a team a lot, when I put my shirt on I honestly feel like I could play football – its weird. When you take it of its like ”Uh, still fat”. But when you put it on youre like ”Yeah! I can play!” Its weird when you idealize something that much. Yeah, Liverpool, table tennis… Ive got an eye for pretty girls – just looking: model girls and those things. My best friend is a fashion designer as well. Uh… Just trying to edit breaks, trying to find different breaks… Its for the tune ”Ill play for Liverpool” smile.gif

When Liverpool won the European Cup recently in the last two years was the only time Ive cried that havent involved something emotional to do with life. But its weird when you put the shirt you forget that you are fat, you are thin, your are too unfit, that youll never make the team ever in a million years, you put the shirt on and then you look in the mirror and you look like you could play. When I put my Liverpool top on I feel I can play.
And Seba doesnt like football. So Ive got one with PARADOX on the back and Ive got one with SEBA on the back. And Ive given it as a present and he looked at the shirt and said ”Whats this?”, I was like ”Beautiful shirt”, he was like ”Why are you giving it to me?”, I was like ”Its for you”, he was like ”Oh, cheers”, I was like ”Turn it around”, he was like ”Oh, f**k…” I was like ”Now you are a Liverpool fan”, so he had to accept it. He was like ”Cheers, Ill wear it sometime maybe”.

And then when we were in Holland together and Teebee was playing (Teebee supports Chelsea who is like a rival). I was wearing my Liverpool top that night because Teebee was playing. And Seba goes to me: ”You are wearing your Liverpool top tonight?” and I was like ”Yeah, Teebee supports Chelsea and that will piss him off, wont it? Thats why I gonna wear it” and he was like ”I brought mine. I didnt mean to. Bella (his girlfriend) packed my bag and it was there” and I was ”Wear it and youll bug off Teebee!” I used that angle and he was like ”Yeah, OK”.

So that night we were at the backstage and Teebee was like ”Ah, you bastard… We won the Championship last year” and I was like ”Weve got 5 European Cups. How many have you got? – Zero!” So Teebee was really pissed smile.gif. Anyway, what happened was, Holland has a big football following and even Liverpool had a big Dutch following. At the end of the night Seba comes up to me and goes ”Ill never f**kin wear this shit ever again! People come up to me sayin ”Who is you favourite player? What do you think of that game?” And Seba was like ”What are you talking about?! I dont know who plays in Liverpool! f**kin Paradox got it for me and Im never wearing this shirt again. Stop asking questions about football! I dont know anything about it!”

He was like ”We go to Holland and noone asks me anything about music! f**kin Liverpool, Ill never wear that again!” It was classic! That was hillarious! smile.gif And he has never worn it since. And on my MySpace page theres a picture of him DJing (he looks really serious) and he wears his red cap and ironically it matches the red shirt – he looked like a proper fan. And on my MySpace page it says ”Liverpools #1 fan Seba and heres the proof” and its just wikkid! smile.gif He hit me up then ”Take that picture off, man! It brings back bad memories!”

Any other funny stories from your touring?

Just so many really… But thats the wikkid one. And when the story had come out, Teebee was really cracking on it. He was like ”You bought a fan! Hes not a fan – you bought him!” and I was like ”I doesnt matter. You still got zero!” smile.gif It was really really really funny.

And the final question: what are your plans for 2007? What can we expect from you and your labels?

Me and Seba are halfway through our album for Warner. So thats gonna take a bit of time. And then me and Seba are touring far places. Weve got to go to America again but we are choosing just 6 or 7 places that we really like. Doing those and coming home will take like 30 days which is just impossible to do. We are also invited to Japan, China, Australia, New Zealand - that all needs to be coordinated. Sebas daughter is only one, so that all has to be strategically done.

Weve got all our music, were doing all our labels – 4 labels need to continue. But Seba & Paradox album has to be taken forward. We and Herbie Hancock are talking about doing an album together. Just us two. A long 60-minute piece of music. Non-drum&bass of course, just one long thing. Me and Seba are also doing PlayStation music themes. There loads of multimedia things outside what we are doing.

In what genres?

Its drum&bass music, but its stuff for ESPN – music for games, we are doing that. Oh yeah, and Ive got a track coming out on a label called BMG (one of the big five) that comes out in June. Its called ”Archive” by me and Nucleus, so thats Nucleus & Paradox on BMG.

There a lot of other things and Ive got to try maintain the relationships with my girlfriend between England and Lithuania and thats f**kin difficult. Oh, its just too much, to be honest. The most important is getting Seba & Paradox album correct. Every track wont appear on a 12”. That will be 12 brand new pieces of music. And that involves a lot of flights obviously. Again it means another year of flying.

Good luck with that!

Yeah, yeah.

Thanks for the interview. It was nice talking to you indeed.

Yeah, cool.

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